The death of the Egyptian Prince
Hectic month... hectic life...not even feel like posting... I just want to write about this crap story of the Egyptian Prince... once and for all.. and get rid of his ghost for ever. I'll only write down what happened, and I know I'll make me feel like shit again... but I need to take it all out...and close that door...
Cairo... I missed it so much... the noise ... the people... my office there... mango juice... I love that city... I love the people...Here we go... He calls me... sms me... tells me that he's missed me so much... needs to see me... so busy at work... but we'll find a way. Ok... we did find a way... He picks me up after work... I get rid of my colleagues... I wanted to be alone with him. We needed to talk.... He looks great... damn... this is not a good start... tells me he loves my hair... and my eyes.... do you mind stopping it, please?. We talk about work... he hates his manager, he's jealous of him he says... I should be doing something different... he encourages me... you should work as a consultant in Egypt of course... I know a friend who can find you a job here...We go to this place and he asks if he can sit close to me... what's wrong with him? Is it not normal for egyptian girls to sit by a guy? I don't know and I don't care anymore... He has to go to Sharm for a company meeting this weekend... please come with me, we will have a great time... are you out of your mind? no way!!, I wont go... Please change the flight... come with me... I want to show you Sharm... I said no way...L calls me ... can you beleive it?... I have to speak in English.. he's listening to our conversation...and when I hang up he asks who was it. I tell him. I've already told him about L, actually, though he didn't believe the story. Now he wants details.. where is he from? Ohhh South Africa... Next question: is he like us??? wtf?? what do you mean like us? Stupid racist....I should have told him he's a nigger... but i tell him the truth.. he's indian...L starts smsing me compulsively... I have to reply all the time, I don't want him to be upset... Prince doesn't seem to care...cool...He starts talking about religion, he's always tried to convert me to Islam... I love listening to him...that's how I fell in love with him...we talk and talk and talk... It's getting late...he drops me in hotel...and stops the engine of the car....looking at me that way... I want to kiss you... fine...look... I'm thinking of another guy... you know that...yeah.. but you like me, right?... yes I do...so what?... don't you want me to hug you?... please let's go up to your room....I said no.... c'mon.. what's wrong with you?... You know I want you... and when I've seen you tonight you have erased the whole last year... I've missed you so much...and I'm so horny... so... I decide to challenge him.... I'll be thinking of another guy all the time ... don't you have a problem with that?... He seems puzzled... I've never tried that before.... he insists.... I don't want to.... but I don't want him to leave either... He tells me if I go to Sharm we won't spend time together... I'll try not to go...I'll call you tomorrow and we'll meet again after work...and I'll try not to go to Sharm so we can spend Friday together, ok???. Cool... I leave the car and he calls my name... I come back... I like you so so much!!!, I slam the door and leave him. I'm floating in my hotel room...damn... I thought I've got over him. sms in the middle of the night... I like you so much... see you tomorrow..... and... guess what??? tomorrow he's gone!!. I should have known... how could I've been so stupid?. No reply to my sms... I don't even know if he's finally going to Sharm or not... call him at night... he's still in the office... cool... I go to Alex the following day... I don't want to stay in Cairo waiting for his call.....but in the afternoon I'm so annoyed that I start calling him... no reply... I sms him... what's wrong with you? I want it straight, ok?... He calls me after... apologizing.. He's in Sharm... so busy... I hang up the phone... I'm fed up with this.... just want to come back home... Call him following day many times to say goodbye... I don't feel good for having been so harsh ... he doesn't answer.... I sms him... just wanted to say goodbye... enjoy your weekend in Sharm... he replies a day after when I'm in Madrid...just one word... goodbye
Back to the office.... I can see he's connected to skype and I cannot resist... Here is our last conversation...
Spanish Moza: hey :)
Egyptian Prince: hi
Spanish Moza: hows it?
Egyptian Prince: fine
Egyptian Prince: how u
Spanish Moza: fine also....
Egyptian Prince: hope u got a good trip
Egyptian Prince: u r home now right?
Spanish Moza: no im in the office
i tried calling you like 1000 times before leaving but you didnt answer :(
did you enjoy your weekend in sharm?
Egyptian Prince: very much
Spanish Moza: cool
Egyptian Prince: but i didn't enjoy the sea a lot
Spanish Moza: why?
Egyptian Prince: cuz the morning was for meeting
Spanish Moza: aha
Egyptian Prince: i have ran for 30 minutes break only on saturday
Spanish Moza: i see
Egyptian Prince: sea was magnificant
Egyptian Prince: i wish to go back but in a hiliday
Spanish Moza: well you can go any weekend i suppose
Egyptian Prince: no not really
Spanish Moza: cmon
you still have an hectic week?
Egyptian Prince: 9 pm minimum :(
Spanish Moza: why didnt you tell me you were leaving?
you really made me feel bad, you know
Egyptian Prince: cuz i didn't have time
Spanish Moza: cmon... you could have smsed me or sthing
Egyptian Prince: i came back home @ 12:00 midnight from work on wednesday
Spanish Moza: im ok if we cannot meet but i least i expect you to say sthing, you know...
Egyptian Prince: packed and slept 2 hours
Egyptian Prince: airplan was on 5AM
Spanish Moza: yeah but you know what i mean....
Egyptian Prince: i didn't even sleep
Spanish Moza: yeah
Egyptian Prince: no i don't:
Spanish Moza: cmon
Egyptian Prince: :^)
Spanish Moza: well i honestly find that really rude....
after the shit we were talking the day before specially
Egyptian Prince: whatever(n)
Spanish Moza: huh????
what do you mean whatever, come off it
Egyptian Prince: no
Spanish Moza: no what?
Egyptian Prince: i don't really care
Spanish Moza: then its fine... but why do you have to talk shit then?
Egyptian Prince: u r caring about ur indian bf
Spanish Moza: yeah i am, he loves me
Egyptian Prince: why should i care
Spanish Moza: well... im not asking you to care.... im just expecting a minimum of politeness on your side, you know, this is not the jungle
Egyptian Prince: he loves you + i don't = go to him
Spanish Moza: thats what im doing
Egyptian Prince: it 's the jungle and i am the lion
Spanish Moza: its not, comon
Egyptian Prince: i do whatever i want with anyone
Spanish Moza: i could have just left without saying goodbye but i just didnt want to cos i find that also very rude, its all about that for me
Spanish Moza: you talk shit... tell me your my friend...
Egyptian Prince: thanks, i am not
Spanish Moza: my friend? i can see that…then?...
you see... you're like dr. Jeckyll & mr. Hyde
Egyptian Prince: i am both
Spanish Moza: i dont even know why should i bother
Egyptian Prince: u shouldn't… go to ur bf he won't bother,
he loves u, and i don't
i do love a girl and i can not cheat on her
Spanish Moza:i never said i loved him
Egyptian Prince: i told her about what happened,she got irritated,
so i stopped it. too simply
Spanish Moza: then i find that perfectly normal...
as its normal that you tell me
Egyptian Prince: u shouldn't have all this time to realize
Spanish Moza: i was only asking you to b straight
Egyptian Prince: why should i tell u, i am not a gay
Spanish Moza: if you really love her i cant understand how you can do things like that...
thats really nasty
Egyptian Prince: cuz i am human, and humans get horny
don't u know that !!. i am really in need for sex and she's virgin and don't do it and not ready to do it before marriage, so what shall i do, u tell me
Spanish Moza: would you like her to do the same if you didn’t want to have sex?
Egyptian Prince: she won't , and i never won't want to do it, she's religeous
Spanish Moza: yeah... like you, right?
Egyptian Prince: twice of me, i could have sex if i am out of patience but she 's the type who never do it b4 marriage
Spanish Moza: i honestly didn’t think you were that simple
Egyptian Prince: i am not a complicated person for sure
Spanish Moza: and i don’t understand why you talk about religion all the time and have that type of moral..you know...
Egyptian Prince: no i don't ? what do u mean ? being horny
Spanish Moza: i try to b open minded and think we belong to different cultures and all that ...
Egyptian Prince: ?
Spanish Moza: but... i dont know ...i feel very close to D (another colleague or common friend)... and we talk and that and whenever he's here i try to meet him...cos i really appreciate him, and for me it was the same with you, independently of me liking you or you liking me and all of the kind
Egyptian Prince: i am thinking about sex all the time and i have to have it soon else i am going to explode
Spanish Moza: ok... good luck then
Egyptian Prince: thanks, bye
So this is it.... after this charming conversation I have erased his number from my phone and i have removed him from messenger and skype... I've never found a guy who made me feel so humilliated in my whole life... I've had enough of this... I shouldn't be surprised either... something like that was very likely to happen and we all knew that, huh???....but now I'm done with this... He's death for me.
More dramatic posts about L are to come soon....but I just don't have the energy now... I'll come back soon....
Cairo... I missed it so much... the noise ... the people... my office there... mango juice... I love that city... I love the people...Here we go... He calls me... sms me... tells me that he's missed me so much... needs to see me... so busy at work... but we'll find a way. Ok... we did find a way... He picks me up after work... I get rid of my colleagues... I wanted to be alone with him. We needed to talk.... He looks great... damn... this is not a good start... tells me he loves my hair... and my eyes.... do you mind stopping it, please?. We talk about work... he hates his manager, he's jealous of him he says... I should be doing something different... he encourages me... you should work as a consultant in Egypt of course... I know a friend who can find you a job here...We go to this place and he asks if he can sit close to me... what's wrong with him? Is it not normal for egyptian girls to sit by a guy? I don't know and I don't care anymore... He has to go to Sharm for a company meeting this weekend... please come with me, we will have a great time... are you out of your mind? no way!!, I wont go... Please change the flight... come with me... I want to show you Sharm... I said no way...L calls me ... can you beleive it?... I have to speak in English.. he's listening to our conversation...and when I hang up he asks who was it. I tell him. I've already told him about L, actually, though he didn't believe the story. Now he wants details.. where is he from? Ohhh South Africa... Next question: is he like us??? wtf?? what do you mean like us? Stupid racist....I should have told him he's a nigger... but i tell him the truth.. he's indian...L starts smsing me compulsively... I have to reply all the time, I don't want him to be upset... Prince doesn't seem to care...cool...He starts talking about religion, he's always tried to convert me to Islam... I love listening to him...that's how I fell in love with him...we talk and talk and talk... It's getting late...he drops me in hotel...and stops the engine of the car....looking at me that way... I want to kiss you... fine...look... I'm thinking of another guy... you know that...yeah.. but you like me, right?... yes I do...so what?... don't you want me to hug you?... please let's go up to your room....I said no.... c'mon.. what's wrong with you?... You know I want you... and when I've seen you tonight you have erased the whole last year... I've missed you so much...and I'm so horny... so... I decide to challenge him.... I'll be thinking of another guy all the time ... don't you have a problem with that?... He seems puzzled... I've never tried that before.... he insists.... I don't want to.... but I don't want him to leave either... He tells me if I go to Sharm we won't spend time together... I'll try not to go...I'll call you tomorrow and we'll meet again after work...and I'll try not to go to Sharm so we can spend Friday together, ok???. Cool... I leave the car and he calls my name... I come back... I like you so so much!!!, I slam the door and leave him. I'm floating in my hotel room...damn... I thought I've got over him. sms in the middle of the night... I like you so much... see you tomorrow..... and... guess what??? tomorrow he's gone!!. I should have known... how could I've been so stupid?. No reply to my sms... I don't even know if he's finally going to Sharm or not... call him at night... he's still in the office... cool... I go to Alex the following day... I don't want to stay in Cairo waiting for his call.....but in the afternoon I'm so annoyed that I start calling him... no reply... I sms him... what's wrong with you? I want it straight, ok?... He calls me after... apologizing.. He's in Sharm... so busy... I hang up the phone... I'm fed up with this.... just want to come back home... Call him following day many times to say goodbye... I don't feel good for having been so harsh ... he doesn't answer.... I sms him... just wanted to say goodbye... enjoy your weekend in Sharm... he replies a day after when I'm in Madrid...just one word... goodbye
Back to the office.... I can see he's connected to skype and I cannot resist... Here is our last conversation...
Spanish Moza: hey :)
Egyptian Prince: hi
Spanish Moza: hows it?
Egyptian Prince: fine
Egyptian Prince: how u
Spanish Moza: fine also....
Egyptian Prince: hope u got a good trip
Egyptian Prince: u r home now right?
Spanish Moza: no im in the office
i tried calling you like 1000 times before leaving but you didnt answer :(
did you enjoy your weekend in sharm?
Egyptian Prince: very much
Spanish Moza: cool
Egyptian Prince: but i didn't enjoy the sea a lot
Spanish Moza: why?
Egyptian Prince: cuz the morning was for meeting
Spanish Moza: aha
Egyptian Prince: i have ran for 30 minutes break only on saturday
Spanish Moza: i see
Egyptian Prince: sea was magnificant
Egyptian Prince: i wish to go back but in a hiliday
Spanish Moza: well you can go any weekend i suppose
Egyptian Prince: no not really
Spanish Moza: cmon
you still have an hectic week?
Egyptian Prince: 9 pm minimum :(
Spanish Moza: why didnt you tell me you were leaving?
you really made me feel bad, you know
Egyptian Prince: cuz i didn't have time
Spanish Moza: cmon... you could have smsed me or sthing
Egyptian Prince: i came back home @ 12:00 midnight from work on wednesday
Spanish Moza: im ok if we cannot meet but i least i expect you to say sthing, you know...
Egyptian Prince: packed and slept 2 hours
Egyptian Prince: airplan was on 5AM
Spanish Moza: yeah but you know what i mean....
Egyptian Prince: i didn't even sleep
Spanish Moza: yeah
Egyptian Prince: no i don't:
Spanish Moza: cmon
Egyptian Prince: :^)
Spanish Moza: well i honestly find that really rude....
after the shit we were talking the day before specially
Egyptian Prince: whatever(n)
Spanish Moza: huh????
what do you mean whatever, come off it
Egyptian Prince: no
Spanish Moza: no what?
Egyptian Prince: i don't really care
Spanish Moza: then its fine... but why do you have to talk shit then?
Egyptian Prince: u r caring about ur indian bf
Spanish Moza: yeah i am, he loves me
Egyptian Prince: why should i care
Spanish Moza: well... im not asking you to care.... im just expecting a minimum of politeness on your side, you know, this is not the jungle
Egyptian Prince: he loves you + i don't = go to him
Spanish Moza: thats what im doing
Egyptian Prince: it 's the jungle and i am the lion
Spanish Moza: its not, comon
Egyptian Prince: i do whatever i want with anyone
Spanish Moza: i could have just left without saying goodbye but i just didnt want to cos i find that also very rude, its all about that for me
Spanish Moza: you talk shit... tell me your my friend...
Egyptian Prince: thanks, i am not
Spanish Moza: my friend? i can see that…then?...
you see... you're like dr. Jeckyll & mr. Hyde
Egyptian Prince: i am both
Spanish Moza: i dont even know why should i bother
Egyptian Prince: u shouldn't… go to ur bf he won't bother,
he loves u, and i don't
i do love a girl and i can not cheat on her
Spanish Moza:i never said i loved him
Egyptian Prince: i told her about what happened,she got irritated,
so i stopped it. too simply
Spanish Moza: then i find that perfectly normal...
as its normal that you tell me
Egyptian Prince: u shouldn't have all this time to realize
Spanish Moza: i was only asking you to b straight
Egyptian Prince: why should i tell u, i am not a gay
Spanish Moza: if you really love her i cant understand how you can do things like that...
thats really nasty
Egyptian Prince: cuz i am human, and humans get horny
don't u know that !!. i am really in need for sex and she's virgin and don't do it and not ready to do it before marriage, so what shall i do, u tell me
Spanish Moza: would you like her to do the same if you didn’t want to have sex?
Egyptian Prince: she won't , and i never won't want to do it, she's religeous
Spanish Moza: yeah... like you, right?
Egyptian Prince: twice of me, i could have sex if i am out of patience but she 's the type who never do it b4 marriage
Spanish Moza: i honestly didn’t think you were that simple
Egyptian Prince: i am not a complicated person for sure
Spanish Moza: and i don’t understand why you talk about religion all the time and have that type of moral..you know...
Egyptian Prince: no i don't ? what do u mean ? being horny
Spanish Moza: i try to b open minded and think we belong to different cultures and all that ...
Egyptian Prince: ?
Spanish Moza: but... i dont know ...i feel very close to D (another colleague or common friend)... and we talk and that and whenever he's here i try to meet him...cos i really appreciate him, and for me it was the same with you, independently of me liking you or you liking me and all of the kind
Egyptian Prince: i am thinking about sex all the time and i have to have it soon else i am going to explode
Spanish Moza: ok... good luck then
Egyptian Prince: thanks, bye
So this is it.... after this charming conversation I have erased his number from my phone and i have removed him from messenger and skype... I've never found a guy who made me feel so humilliated in my whole life... I've had enough of this... I shouldn't be surprised either... something like that was very likely to happen and we all knew that, huh???....but now I'm done with this... He's death for me.
More dramatic posts about L are to come soon....but I just don't have the energy now... I'll come back soon....
posted by spanish_moza at 4:02 PM
18 Comments:
Hi there. Hope you're feeling better now. I read your blog a few times before, and I must tell you, it was very clear that this guy just wanted sex from the very beginning. Also, I think you enabled him and encouraged him all the way by giving him so many chances even though it was clear he was a prick.
Good thing yo uerased his numbers.
I did tell you before, anyway its your mistake & u know it...but regarding him talking of religion, hypocrites like him talk about it all the time yet live completely different, its general schizophrenia. thats one hard lesson learned i suppose
The nerve on that guy!!!
Good for you for cutting him out of your life like that, don't look back SP, don't look back.
Hey guys!!,
Thanks for your comments.... I know it's my fault...and yes, I've learnt this lesson the hard way.
Still I don't understand why the guy lies all the time... why didn't he tell me he had a gf? In case he has...
fraoulassan, thanks for your support... your spanish is nice!!!
gc: Wellcome!! ;-)) Yeah I'm afraid I encouraged him more that I should have... couldn't help it... lol
Jokerman, the religious thing is honestly fascinating... how can he just switch from religion to sex like that??? it really puzzles me... How can he just tell openly that his gf is a virgin and must remain like that till marriage, but that he has his needs??? arggghhh some guys suck....
sou: Wellcome :-)... I'm trying not to look back but I've dreamt of him tonight... he was smsing me again... grrr... but it was just a dream ;-)
schizophrenia!! Like a guy who prays 5 times a day & talks about religion all day long but cheats at his job, lies to people, back stabs others for personal gains, like mafia guys who kill people in cold blood & then pray as if nothing happened. Of course its sickening but also fake.
Wow. That conversation shows his true colours, if they weren't evident before. All of that should make you feel better about your choice. Clearly he viewed you as the 'friend w/ benefits' and had another romantic connection. No sex? No friend.
Dear Spanish Girl,
I'm from Egypt,Christian, and ur story happens a lot through the net, guys here lies and just wnat sex, and to convert any girl to islam..bcz if they do, they will have a PALACE in heaven..anyway..just take care and know in the same time that life is short so we must be attached to God more to help and protect us, bcz he is the only one who loves us truly...Good Luck
anon
what about the coptic guys who convert just so they marry a muslim girl then afterwards when they divorce they covnert back? is that witty from a coptic point of view or is it considered a sin? Muslims & christians in Egypt share the same mentality & you just showed it, get attached to God more cos hes the only that cares about us? really? & Islam doesnt say that? You just turned into a religious issue as if claiming a moral high ground, you are just the same as he is.
Well, whatever anon's motivations are, I agree that it happens quite often in Egypt, and while I know countless women who have converted to please her Muslim man, I've yet to meet any women in Egpyt doing the same for a Coptic man. One could argue that demographics are the reason behind this, I suppose. That, and simple odds.
CAIROgal
You dont convert to please your partner, thats hypocrisy. But the problem lies in that a muslim woman cannot marry a non muslim male, so the male has to convert inorder to marry her, but its mostly superficial because faith is in the heart, you cannot change so easily unless you are mentally convinced. Now there isnt any Quranic verses that prohibits a muslim lady from marrying a non muslim, as the issue was never considered & thus many belive its invalid, but that women who convert to pelase her partner is simply lying to him, a christian female does not have convert by the way, but i think its done so she can raise the kids if he dies as the laws of the country will not allow her to raise them for religion difference. silly huh?
@ Jokerman, I've seen countless women convert and their reasons for conversion vary. Personally, I agree w/ you when you say it's hypocritical to convert to please a man, but let's be honest: it happens ALL the time. Men want to smooth the marriage with the foreigner by telling their families she's converted. They women say it's genuine, but it's clearly not the case in 98% of conversions I've witnessed in which "the girl meets Muslim man, girl finds religion suddenly" scenario. I've known women who have converted on paper (though not expressed this clearly to new hubby) in order to secure future custody of the child should father die. I've known women who've converted in order to get a proposal. I've known women who converted to make their time w/ his family tolerable. Hypocrisy? For sure. Depends, I suppose, what you tell yourself in your heart. If his family was truly basing their reaction on religion, then it wouldn't matter that she Christian or Jewish. That's just not reality.
As for Muslim women marrying non-Muslim men, I've seen so few cases on this (maybe 5 or 6) and in each case the man converts. Something about these relationships seems truer than their counterparts.
what does religion had to do with anything??
It's simple the guy is a horny son of a bitch who doesn't hesitate to tell any lie to get pussy it's just that simple
Hi guys,
Sorry, I've been missing for a while…
Jokerman, I agree with you that people in Egypt are more religious or apparently they talk more about religion than in Europe… I'm including christians here also, but I also beleive that christians are not that eager to convert all their friends to their own religion. That's only my view… I can only tell you that this egyptian guy asked me if I ever thought of changing my religion and convert to Islam everytime we met.
Besides, I don't beleive that converting to please your partner is hypocritical… It depends only on your views about religion… Actually I think I'd be ready to do that for love if I knew it was important for my partner. For me there's only one God who's not tied to any religion, but that of course depends on every one.
Cairogal, its funny that you mention the fact that a muslim girl cannot marry a non-muslim man… because when the prince was claiming that he, as a muslim, could marry any woman irrespective of her religion and I replied him with this… he was surprised that I knew (I guess he was assuming he could tell me anything since I didn't know shit)… and admited that it was not fair.
Mina… Hi….How are you?... You are right… religion was not the topic of the post, I mean, first of all I don't like talking about my spirituality… but in case I decide to talk about religion, I only do it with close, intimate friends and in certain circumstances… not with a guy I'm about to try to shag… so that was my point… I was just surprised and horrified at the same time of how easily he changed from such a serious subject to another...
Oh!!... and I forgot to tell you that he's been calling me at least 5 times (the last one this morning)... but since he's dead I didn't answer.... ;-)
Any ideas of why does he do that? ... maybe because its Xmas??? ;-)
I think when some Muslim men ask about conversion, it's to ease the situation for themselves, rather than to be evangelical. Marrying a foreigner is quite shameful in some (most) social circles in Egypt, let alone a non-Muslim foreigner. In the case of my husband, he never dreamed of asking me to or suggestion conversion, though his life would be much much easier if I did.
Technically your prince can marry other believers in the one God, such as a Jew or a Christian, but I don't think this extends to the other faiths out there.
As for why his calls, a good Egyptian friend once told me "It's not over. Believe me. He doesn't think it's over." Relationships between Egyptian men and women who are 'dating', for lack of a better word, are often ridddled with mind games. He likely thinks this is just a 'down time' and you'll hook up with one another at some point. It seems the either or both parties moving on is what breaks the pattern of dysfunction.
MIna
you only have to read what anonymous posted to understand what got religion into it, its typical egyptian stuff.
spanyola
It is hypocritical to change to a religion for the sake of a spouse/partner. yes there is only one God & every faith converges to him in their own way, thats why there is no reason to convert!!! Religion is between you & GOd, not between you & your bf/husband & God.
You convert to a religion that suits You & YOu only, not because it suits your man.
& you have to udnerstand that muslims till today think as though they are in the Madina 1430 years ago where they needed numbers to survive a hostile pagan environment, that git doesnt know a shit about Islam, he wants to seduce you & to convert you, its not religious but chauvinistic, the subconscious urge to conform everyone, i gues he thinks its a duty for every muslim to help convert others, to save them, like missionaries do, ddint the spaniards kill thousands to conform their recently regained land(spanish inquisitions)?
Obviously the egyptian git is horny like hell now thats why he's contacting you,not cos of xmas or to say sorry!! you made a big mistake by speaking to him, not to mention going out with him, then you made a bigger one by frantically calling him to see where he was before you left, he thinks he can play you like a yoyo, untill now you havent proved him wrong. do you want to know how that guy regards you? He hasnt the slightest respect for you or for himself or for his fiance, & he will never change.
I think Jokerman has hit the nail on the proverbial head in terms of what your prince's intentions really are. Run away, hermosa! Run far, far away!
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